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conspirators. ([personal profile] coniurati) wrote in [community profile] discedo_ooc2010-09-15 11:13 pm

LOCKS... AND YOU!

Because we've seen a lot of misunderstanding about how locks work here in Discedo, and because we've never really defined it in the first place, we decided to throw together a little guide on communicator locks and hacking for you all!

In terms of percentages:

0% - 20%
When characters go to make a post on their communicators, they are given the option of locking it—think like the selection on LiveJournal, when it comes to friends locks. There is a little ticky box; hitting "LOCK" will lock the entry, and hitting nothing will leave it unlocked. This is also where the "enable anon" function is; you just hit a button and it's there.

Now, obviously, locks done in this manner? Aren't the most secure in the world. Sure, they'll keep the casual passerby out, but they can usually been "seen" by others (if only by an "access denied" type message), and a little persistence, retrying, and occasional helpful glitch will gain you access to the post.

21% - 50%
This is the slightly more "advanced" lock. If you have decent computer skills or are willing to learn and put in the effort? You can probably strengthen the lock to this. This makes it harder to see by everyone, and harder to get into. Without real hacking ability, you'll probably be at it for an hour or two... assuming you know it's there to start with! With hacking ability, it's only the work of fifteen minutes or so.

Essentially, a lock like this is made by taking the "default" lock and adding some coding and encryptions and stuff like "for all frequencies but so and so, add a password." If you know how to search for locked posts or sections, you'll find it easily enough, but otherwise, it's hard to see... which makes it just as hard to get into!

51% - 70%
This is the ADVANCED stage of locking. Only characters with real computer skills—programming, specifically—should be able to make these. Of course, they can also teach others, but there's no option on the menu for it or anything. Locks like this are much harder to detect—it's more like shooting in the dark—and take hacking skills to get into. Again, characters can learn to lock or be taught to lock, but this level isn't something that can just "happen" without a character knowing how.

71% - 99%
Only extremely good programers/hackers should be able to use this. This means canonical examples of the character knowing one or the other. We won't be picky about canon knowledge, but creating a lock (or hacking a lock) on this level pretty much requires your character to sit down and write/go through code for 20 minutes or more—it's not something you can just pick up and do. Characters should definitely not be able to make 90+ percent locks without a lot of canonical computer skills—as in programing, not, has one in the office.

Basically, when in doubt, 70% is the highest you can go. And, of course, nothing is completely unhackable. That would be cheating!


Now that your character knows how to lock, how do locks work? Well, basically, when you go to make a lock, the communicator prompts you to include frequencies—other characters, in other words. So A can include anyone, so long as they know their frequencies. This means they can include all their friends, some of them, one person—or just themselves, if they're so inclined. Or they can send a message to someone they don't know, as long as they know the frequency.

Characters would not be able to, for example, lock a post to "everyone who works at the bar," unless they know all those people—instead, they'd be locking it to everyone who works at the bar who they can remember from a list. Locks to "all doctors" won't work unless your character knows (or is told) the frequencies of all the doctors, etc. The communicator doesn't know these things, after all!

Locks made to exclude people are actually locked post listing everyone in Discedo except whoever—the character would simply choose everyone on the frequency list except for the person they wanted to exclude.

You can create multiple locks of different levels a post, include some people in the two different locks at once, etc. Furthermore, locked posts directed towards your character have a little note stating the post is locked—not the level or who else, if anyone, is included, but an indication of the fact.

Threads can also be locked! The same option as with posts appears; if both character confirm they want it locked, it will be. One or both can then strengthen the lock; it won't combine, but the system will default to the stronger encryption: if Alice makes a 40% lock and Bob a 30% lock, the system will pick Alice's. Also just like a post, a thread lock can be made to include anyone desired, so long as the person locking knows their frequency.

And, just like posts, threads can be hacked. A locked thread will be invisible just as a locked post is, but the same hacking rules apply—it can be found with an error message, it can be glitched into (rarely), it can be hacked.

Since this hadn't been clear or established beforehand, we're not going to raise a big fuss about past entries or threads, but if from now on players could keep this all in mind, we'd appreciate it! And, any points we missed or additional questions can also be asked here!

<molly

[identity profile] shamagaladin.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
I LIKE IT DOOD

I was pondering something. For the 21-50% - do you think that would require real programming skills, or just knowledge of computers? For example I do not know how to program really, but I know parts in the computer where you can shift default settings up (not just, like, the easy to find menu ones), streamline processes, etc. Would this boost a lock up to 30 or 40%?

<parronski. o- obviously.

[identity profile] hasemotions.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm... that's a good question! After talking about it with Otter for a minute, as long as the character has a basic understanding of computers (as in, has them back home etc.), they can go menu hunting and play around in the settings to boost it up to 40% or so, sure! There aren't any buttons like "CLICK THIS FOR STRONGER LOCKS! :D", though, so you would have to spend a little time poking around. XD

WHAT UNPOSSIBLE

[identity profile] shamagaladin.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
That is cool dood! I think that makes sense dood!

Re: WHAT UNPOSSIBLE

[identity profile] heinesangel.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
... Molly isn't a Prinny (http://safebooru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=447551). Right?

[identity profile] x-dilettante-x.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Question!!!

Is there a distinction between a locked post and a filtered post?

Ex.

Post locked to Jonathan vs Post filtered to Jonathan.
kongeriget: (Default)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Not really, no. XD When you lock a post, the communicator will prompt you to pick names to include in the lock - something like:
INCLUDE IN LOCK?
[ ] 1000  [ x ] 1004
[ ] 1001  [ ] 1005
[ x ] 1002  [ ] 1006
[ ] 1003  [ ] 1007
etc. etc., with the numbers being frequencies. Since there are no friends lists or anything on communicators—everyone sees everyone's—locks are more "exclude everyone but", if that makes sense? /CLEARLY BEING LONG-WINDED HERE—it's basically interchangeable. XD I guess the only real difference would be if other people are included in the lock or if it's JUST to Jon, but menu/system wise, it's the same... menu.

EDIT AGAIN: Oh, and if you didn't pick a name, then it would just be visible only to you by default.
Edited 2010-09-16 04:01 (UTC)

[identity profile] x-dilettante-x.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
okay!

Mmm...I think that gives me a second question though XD.

That also means that, a filtered post would come up with the 'access denied' message?

Or would it be more like a text message were it go directly to the person it's filtered only?

and feel free to long wind as needed I don't mind o/!
kongeriget: (dere thinking)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-16 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Um, I might be understanding wrong, so please correct me if so—

If you post a message and lock it to Bob only, then it'll only show up for Bob. But, if it's a low encryption/people are looking for it/etc., then other people might see a post show up. But when they tried to read it/listen to it etc., they'd get the access denied message. They wouldn't be able to see it was sent to Bob—just "sent from" and "locked."

But there's no PM/text message system—everything shows up on the master list.

[identity profile] x-dilettante-x.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
nope that answers it o/

THANKS /hugs :3

[identity profile] beyondimagining.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, for the time commitment to create the filters... Is that something they have to do all new every time they lock a post? Or can they create a filter that can be reused? And can it be shared? I know Danny has been using a filter that Don created when he needed to lock a post.

And as a part of that, what level of security could a kid with a decent knowledge of computers and then taught how to lock a post reach? Looking at the guidelines there I would guess 60%.
kongeriget: (lol)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-16 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
In your example, Don can teach Danny to lock it and Danny can remember it, but there's no "save and repeat" function, at least not for now. Obviously, the more practice you have, the faster you'd get at it, etc. There probably is a way to save lists of people—like, making the communicator automatically include certain people in a lock, or remembering different groups (so when Alice goes to make a locked post, she can do it manually or click a button to have Bob and Charlie automatically included).

60% sounds reasonable, yeah!

[identity profile] beyondimagining.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! That makes sense to me! Though if I'm understanding this right, it means poor Danny will no longer be able to slap a lock on to a conversation in a hurry the moment someone says the word ghost.

[identity profile] ijianomaly.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
What if you wrote it down on a piece of paper? Or can no lock be exactly the same as another?
kongeriget: (um lost)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-18 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
A little of both. You can write down the steps etc. on a piece of paper and refer to it, but you'll still have to type it all out and tweak settings - it's slightly unique, but the general steps can be used. This refers to locking only; hacking is of course its own set of rules.

[identity profile] heinesangel.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
This one is going into the Memories!

[identity profile] nomnomguts.livejournal.com 2010-09-16 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Can computer-savvy characters provide less technologically advanced characters with... 'premade' locks, as it were? Like the coding to lock their entries whatever percent the first character can manage?

Also woohoo, this really does clear things up. Will you be linking it somewhere in the main pages?
kongeriget: (Default)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-16 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
We'll be adding this to the communicator post, along with all the question-answers, for future reference, yeah.

And computer-savvy characters can teach others to lock, but there's no "premade" locks aside from the default one, at least for now. A character could possibly write down like "step one, do this, step two, do that," and have that list to consult. but there's no quick pass that will do it automatically, at least for now.
rules_the_north: (figuring out a solution)

[personal profile] rules_the_north 2010-09-17 04:58 am (UTC)(link)
Can it happen that a character cannot get into their own posts anymore after a while, if someone way above their hacking level helped them to lock it originally? For example:

Sweden, who only gets the 0-20% lock, got help from Finland who goes up to ...70%? Ages ago. Could it happen that, if he tried to access them later on, a glitch would lock them from him or they would just be locked period?
kongeriget: (lol)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
A user can automatically access all posts/comments/etc. left by them - they're permanently logged in. So no matter the privacy level, the person who posted it can see it (if not anyone else). Of course, this only applies to their own communicators - if Sweden was to borrow someone else's communicator, he wouldn't be able to see it, even if he originally wrote it (unless that someone else was part of the lock, etc.).

[identity profile] failhound.livejournal.com 2010-09-18 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Chat was a little confused on a few points regarding the comms and since we seem to be hashing out new specifications for them anyway I figured I'd drop a note with minor questions here:

1. Can the new comms access information stored on the old ones? I assume network posts are... on the network, but I think there was some data-storing capability on the old ones? Would any of that carry over?

2. If a character leaves the city: I always thought that their frequency/posts were all gone, but might as well ask anyway! For defunct frequencies, what can be accessed? Their posts, their messages on others' entries...?

3. Can the new comms send attachments? For ex. Character A sends Character B a picture over the network -- would it have to be stored on the network, or could it be saved on the individual communicator? This relates to the previous question b/c disappearing frequencies mean disappearing information.

FFfff sorry for sudden minor flooding.
kongeriget: (um lost)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-18 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
1. I'm not sure exactly what you mean, but the new communicators can access all old posts/threads/etc. made by the old ones?

2. Yeah, the frequency being dead means that all the posts etc. are dead, too. The exception would be if they had a thread on someone else's frequency. (Alice leaves the city. All of Alice's threads and posts on her communicator are gone. All of her conversations with Bob on his remain). If a character comes back, even played by another mun, the frequency returns, and all the information would come back with it.

3. The new communicators can save data, yeah. Not mountains of it, of course, but it has some memory and can send files.

[identity profile] failhound.livejournal.com 2010-09-19 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
1. Ah I meant more like something in 3 where data is saved -- I don't remember if the old ones could save data, but I do remember people sending each other attachments in messages, so it was ambiguous. So, maps, information, etc...

2. Oho, I did not know that about the old info returning with different muns! Does this apply for same mun, but opting not to retain the character's memories?

3. Awesome! Thanks for the clarification. o7
kongeriget: (lol)

[personal profile] kongeriget 2010-09-19 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
1. Ah, okay. If Alice sent Bob a map, his new communicator will still have the map. I think that's what you meant?

2. Yep! Obviously there are limits OOCly to this, but ICly, it's the same frequency no matter what.

[identity profile] failhound.livejournal.com 2010-09-19 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
1. Yup!

2. Okay, awesome. \o/ This has potentially lulsy implications...... 8)

Thanks for the answersss.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-23 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Curious anon is curious:

If a character were to be in the city for an extended period of time, could it be possible for them to learn how to lock up to 70% because they've had the time to explore the communicator and learn how it works, especially if the character has been in the city for a year or two?